My friend Travis Nichols has himself a brand spanking new book out called Punk Rock Etiquette. Just when you thought I only blogged about craft books I throw a curve ball at you. Punk Rock Etiquette is a combination comic book, DIY how-to guide, touring manifesto, marketing plan and more. The book is not just for people in a band either so if you are thinking you gave up your harpsichord lessons long ago and this book won’t be applicable to you, then you would be wrong. For anyone who has ever seen a band play and been annoyed by their onstage antics, dated someone in a band, had a child obsessed with playing Guitar Hero – this book is for all those people and more. Snappy writing that will make you giggle, hilarious illustrations (Travis after all has had comics in Nickelodeon Magazine) and for all you crafters (he has an Etsy store too) instructions for how to silk screen T-shirts and make CD cases out of cereal boxes!

We were lucky enough to have a little chat with Travis about Punk Rock Etiquette, his band Omega Monster Patrol, his life as a Texas vegan living in San Francisco and more. Be sure to check out how to win a signed copy of Punk Rock Etiquette at the end.
Was there a breaking point for you that inspired this book? Like was there a particular show that you saw or were involved in where the band took forever to set up, paused between every song to change guitars and tune, never mentioned hide nor hair of the other bands on the bill and you thought to yourself good God people there is such a thing as punk rock etiquette. For instance I once had a band hit my suburban with their tour van and then deny it, they are a perfect example of someone who could use a copy.
The idea for Punk Rock Etiquette came a little bit at a time. I think the initial moment was on a tour where a lot of bands were violating what I thought were just plain common sense "rules". Especially when it came to setting up before a set and getting off stage afterwards. The most critical of errors and my biggest pet peeve is when someone winds up their guitar cables on stage. No! Just grab your stuff and BOUNCE. There's another band waiting to set up. Those little lulls between bands are crucial. Lots of people bail during breaks. And lots of other stuff happened on that tour (like when we played with a band with eleven spare guitars on a rack on stage... and the bass player broke a string, which brought the show to a screeching halt for ten minutes while their "guitar tech" changed it). So, long story short, it sort of started as a DOs and DON'Ts list that my pal Shaun and I started on the road, then we forgot about it, and then I kind of re-thought of it as a how-to.

I wanted to write the book to give newer folks a leg up on DIY music, but also wanted to give veterans of the punk scene fun stuff to read (and things to pick up as well). I've heard from 14-year-olds who liked the book and learned some good stuff from it. And my good buddy Kyle (of The Kyle Sowashes) has been playing and putting out music and touring for well over a decade, and he's into it. So yeah, hopefully people at every level can get something out of it.
For those of us not in a band, tell us why we would also heart Punk Rock Etiquette.
My mom and her friends like the book. Not really my key demographic, but I'll take it! I think there are enough comics and illustrations and jokes and stuff that it can potentially appeal to non-indie-rockers. It hasn't really hit hard in the "scene" yet. It's hard to market to, you know, an anti-corporate subculture. Haha. Um... yeah. But we'll see! Word of mouth is a powerful sumgun.
Back when Naughty Secretary Club was a zine I had a section called The Name Game where I asked bands like Arab Strap, Trail of Dead and Mates of State what the story was behind their bands name. If I were to ask Rasslin, Screaming & Violence and The Big Pile of Dirt about their names what would they say?
That is the best question ever! Let's see. Rasslin is kind of a gimmick band. All of their songs are about wrestling, and they dress as wrestlers - from amateur to professional to sumo to lucha libre. So that one is easy. Screaming & Violence went for irony in their name. They're a low-fi indie-pop band. Screaming and Violence is also the name of a Needies record (a band of mine) that came from my mom's distaste of music with "all of that screaming and violence". The Big Pile of Dirt got their name from a children's short story in one of those old storybooks from the '50s/'60s. It was a story about kids in a neighborhood finding this huge pile of dirt and junk in an abandoned lot, and it became their paradise. The band picked the name because it fit their thick, sludgy, spacey sound. 78 Monsters is an electro-grindcore band. They picked the name because it is awesome. By the way, I'm slowly working on music for all of the fictional bands in the book. There will probably be a compilation at some point.

Now that, on the other hand, is a HORRIBLE question. Come on, Jen! I kind of want to refuse to answer it. I guess right now I'm having tons of fun writing books and doing all of the stuff that goes along with it - book festivals and stuff. But... no. God wouldn't do that to me. Your question is hereby nullified.
I think I love the illustrations almost as much as I love the text of Punk Rock Etiquette. Not everyone can write a witty book and then illustrate it give yourself a nice pat on the back for that one buddy. Which came first for you the writing or the drawings? Which did you find to be more difficult and time consuming between the two?
The writing came first, and the illustrations after. They took about the same amount of time, but the illustrating was a bit more grueling. I spent many a day in the Architecture Library at UT after I discovered it when my girlfriend was in the Masters program there. What a great room. I'd get up there in the morning and work until 5pm. It was perfect because it was huge and beautiful and quiet and I didn't have internet access or TV to distract me.
In the section on forming a band you describe various potential band mates ranging from The Tortured Poet to The Rich Kid. What are your thoughts on say choosing a Sid Vicious type just so you can have a delinquent in your band and more street cred even though your rhythm section will suffer horribly? Rock-n-Roll does seem to be more about image than it is about talent in a lot of cases.
I had a Delinquent in a band once. He was an AMAZING drummer, but he was very much into getting in trouble and "the rock star life". He was fun to have around... to a point. We were on tour and on the night before our last show he wanted us to buy him beer (he was a minor at the time). The last thing I wanted was to get pulled over and be caught with a minor and an open container. We told him no, and then he got some dude at the gas station to buy a 40 for him. We were PISSED and decided that night that he was finished playing with us. We canceled our last show and went home. Man, we were a bunch of goody-two-shoes. And MAN, he was SUCH a badass drummer.
Give us your credentials on the subject matter...
How old were you when you first joined a band?
I was 15 when my neighbor and I formed "Yahoo for Pablo". I played my first "real" show at 16 with Choking Ahogo (not to be confused with the few other bands with the same name). It's funny. Most bands that I have been in have been two-man bands. Both of those and The Needies, The Short Way, and one or two others.

OMEGA MONSTER PATROL! It's equal parts band and performance... thing. I'm also toying with "reforming" The Needies. It started as just me and then I added a drummer, and I've done some thinking about finding some new pals to play with.
What was the first instrument you learned to play?
I took piano lessons in elementary school, and that helped me later on when I started playing trumpet, then guitar, etc.
Who was the first band you saw in concert?
My parents took me to a lot of concerts, and I don't remember what was first. I saw The Dixie Chicks when I was like 13. There were four of them, Natalie wasn't in the band, and they were country as hell. But my dad had a law professor who was in a Creole/Cajun band, and I know I saw them play when I was younger than that. So... hmmm...
What band have seen live the most times?
What band have I seen the most times? I've seen Minus the Bear three times. When I was living in Lubbock during college, some friends and I drove to Portales, NM when they were playing. We were all really into them, and I don't think anyone in Portales knew who they were. It was a RAD show. I've seen Cursive two or three times. I guess that's it for more well-known bands. Other than that, I've seen a bunch of Lubbock friend's bands a zillion times. Tom Foolery and the Mistakes, 10k Drive, Kid Gruesome, Thrift Store Cowboys. Same thing with Austin bands. I think I've seen your manfriend's radical band three or four times. They're awesome. They're the audio equivalent of a glass bottle of syrup getting smashed on your head. Woah. That was poetic. Pitchfork, did you read that?
What is the most exotic location you have toured to?
Lamely enough, I've never played outside of these united states. I've played out to both coasts, but as far as exotic... let's see. Well, I got to play at the Sidewalk Cafe in New York. That place is the world capitol of anti-folk, so it was sort of a pilgrimage for me back in 2004 or whenever that was. And it was perfect and fitting because there were like six people there. Oh, the struggle! I love playing in smaller cities, and I really love playing in New Mexico and Arizona. With OMEGA MONSTER PATROL!, I most often play at art galleries, so that has made for some weirdo shows.

I'm looking to do a book/rock tour in February or so. California to Texas. There will be Shaun Chow and dehydrated zucchini-a-plenty. I also want to do a week or so in the Northeast traveling via Chinatown Express bus, even though I think I swore I'd never ride them again last time I went on one.
I do have a new book on the horizon. This one is fiction, and it's sort of an easy transition from Punk Rock Etiquette. It's about a kid trying to get a drum set, but The Man keeps trying to hold him down. It's a coming-of-age story about dealing with authority figures, i.e. The Man. It's tongue-in-cheek, though. I mean, it's The Man, but it's not a prison warden or anything. It's the principal and parents and stuff. I also have a picture book that might come out at around the same time, but most likely after. And I'm still doing comics for Nickelodeon Magazine every once in a while. What else. Um, I'm working on some posters and stuff.
I'm also thinking about a quarterly Punk Rock Etiquette magazine. The book is an across-the-board how-to, so the magazine would get into specifics. Stuff about awesome bands and more tutorials and random city profiles (like where to eat if you play there, etc.) and comics and stuff.
I've been so busy with book things that I haven't played any since I moved to San Francisco. I played a couple of songs at the Texas Book Festival (you were there), but that's it. I need to get out and dust off Red Sparrow, fluff Tina's fur and get back out there. I have a new OMP! release ready to go, but I haven't had time to do the work. It's going to be a cassingle. Recorded over existing cassingles that I've been collecting. I also have the last Needies record that we never put out. Not sure exactly how I'll put that out, but both releases will also be for sale online. You know, it being the future and all.

See little Travey-Poo just sitting here in the picture signing copies of Punk Rock Etiquette? He is inscribing them with lyrics from Peter Cetera just for you, and I’m not joshing! 2 lucky winners will score themselves a signed copy of the book by just leaving a comment right here on this blog post. You have until December 16th to let me know what are some of the things that you have seen bands do that annoy you? What about fellow show goers that could use a bit of punk rock etiquette? Girlfriends of the band members can sometimes irritate me, what about them. Come on let the world know with your comment and you might just win!
I think the most annoying thing about bands is some of their fans. How they think that they're better than everyone else just because they like the band, or since they've been listening to them longer they're somehow more of a fan than everyone else? Just, ugh.
ReplyDeleteI have been to many shows (back in San Diego)over the years. No Doubt, Sublime, Beastie Boys....the list goes on.
ReplyDeleteThe worst was Sublime. They got drunk on the stage and couldn't remember the lyrics! :(
How about the fans that try to one-up you in conversation? It isn't good enough to have seen REM, they saw REM way back when they opened for U2...so ahead of their time. What does this get them? The satisfaction of being the coolest?
ReplyDeleteThese are perfect ladies! Just what I was looking for. Here are a few examples I just thought of….
ReplyDeleteI hate it when fans sing a long at the show just a little too loud. I have seriously been to the Sundays way back when and Mates of State more recently when people standing next to me were singing so loud to every song I couldn’t hear the band. I’m really impressed that you know every word, but shut the hell up.
Bands don’t throw stuff into the audience. I once saw the Muffs at CBGB’s in New York and the guitarist kept hocking luggies at the crowd. Grizzz-os. Another time I saw a local band here in Austin called The Bulimics and the singer, who seemed quite drunk, was screaming “long live GG Allin” and throwing his beer bottles out into the crowd that were smashing on people.
All of the above could use themselves a copy of Punk Rock Etiquette!
Oh man! Trying to invoke the spirit of GG is turbolame. How unoriginal!
ReplyDeleteIf I was at a Sundays show and couldn't hear the singer, I would be PISSED.
And, well, seeing REM open for U2 actually does make one the coolest. Hahaha. That would have been so cool!
Agreed. Fans ruin bands. You have to be into a band before anyone else, and you have to be over them before everyone else. Sheesh.
Thanks for doing the interview, J-Perk!
oh man, i think i can write a novel on how not to treat "press."
ReplyDelete2 pet peeves that come to mind:
i hate it when local bands act like they're doing me a favor when i interview them.
and
bands who want cd reviews but won't give me a cd to review until i buy it.
oh another one that goes with the 1st pet peeve: i hate it when bands annoy me day after day to interview them and when i get to the interview, they have nothing to say.
as for shows, tall people in the back please! yeah i'm pretty tall but i would never stand in front of a short person at a show. that's just inconsiderate.
ah nuts, memrystaindphto is me. Sarah from somanybands.
ReplyDeleteI like the tour packing profile, I always seem to over pack. How cute are those bra illustrations?! :D
ReplyDeleteOh, gosh, thank you for the tall people comment. I'm really short, and I hate hate hate it when I go to shows and I can't see the band because there are so many tall people down front! I go to shows to *see* the band... if I can't see them, I might as well stay home and listen to their records, y'know? Bonus if I stay home: the drinks are cheaper and I don't have to put up with annoying/drunk people. ;)
ReplyDeleteI specifically hate when people get all frat boy at a show. I was at a Sigur Ros show and every ten minutes some meat head would literally scream at the top of his lungs "YEEEEEEEEAAAAAAH!!! WHOOOOOOO!".
ReplyDeleteI was also at a Band of Horses show when this group of guys would turn around and chest bump each other and pump their fists in the air like they were watching Slayer.
There is a time and a place and neither of those shows were appropriate for that kind of behavior.
Good interview and good topic ;)
oops, didn't read the contest rules. o.k. what always annoys me at concerts is some blonde (yes, it's always the blondes) jumping up and down right in front of me (yes we are miles away from being in the pit or dance area) and this always happens to me! I can't move because all my friends are right next to me and her blonde hair is in my line of view of the band! Or one time a guy insisted on putting his arm around my waist for like 10 minutes...I DID NOT know this guy nor did I want to know him, I was yelling to stop but it was loud so he 'pretended' not to hear. geesh!!!
ReplyDeletehaha, I just read your 'long live gg allin' comment. I love gg and almost saw him play (he got kicked out of the venue before they even went on) but that probably would have been the worst show ever so I guess things happen for a reason. GG...cool, acting like GG...not cool.
ReplyDeleteI recognize Travis from Craftster. :D My pet peeve about going to shows are the people on drugs who decide to pick fights right in front of me. I came to hear music, not get beat up. Same for when the crowd gets crazy and the music isn't hardcore AT ALL. Oooh, and when I go home and smell like smoke. I hate that too.
ReplyDeleteThe worst thing a band can do is not know where they are performing. It astounds me how many times I have heard "Hello San Francisco!" although the venue is in San Jose, Oakland, Mountain View, Berkeley... We are not all the same place! Makes me want to throw an atlas at someone. Note to up and coming bands: the biggies rarely make this mistake!
ReplyDeleteOverzealous staff that shine their safety flashlights at you or the person in front of you that is not acting properly...
ReplyDeleteOr the really drunk girl (that just turned 21) that is sitting on the bar stool next to you (that you don't know) at HOB and keeps falling over practically on you and thinks she needs to stand up and dance......But seems to have forgotten that she can't stand up, and is holding a really full drink that keeps coming way too close to you...
Oh heavens, where to begin? The band members girlfriends that all sit together at a table and NEVER dance....sloppy drunks who DO dance....bad, very bad, sound guys who make a great band sound like crud....and last, band members who act like gods when they walk by and you so happen to tell them they sound great tonight. NO that does NOT mean I am hitting on you.....you just really sound great. Simple as that!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great giveaway!
Warmly,
Leslie
Ok here are some others…
ReplyDeleteUnless you are Thurston Moore you don’t need 700 pedals, 300 different guitars and no one – I REPEAT NO ONE – wants to hear your loud ass reverb so step away from the amp.
Bands I know you want the audience to come close to the stage, but maybe we don’t want to. It makes you look kind of pathetic when you have to keep requesting it of the crowd and no one moves an inch.
Boys if you go on tour and use a shared family vehicle the least you can do is clean the fast food and porn out of it before you take it home. I don’t want to hit the breaks and have a week old cheeseburger and a copy of Jugs come flying up from underneath the seat.
I wrote an entire article for Venus once on dating musicians that you might find amusing.
The above comment about the fast food and porn must be about another band because my band would have never done that.
ReplyDeleteFans that sing louder than the band.
ReplyDeleteBands that stare at a fixed point in the distance like they are in a huge stadium when they are in a bar.
Bands that try too hard to come up with a local story to bond with the crowd. Some bands can be really genuine with this. Others are just lame.
I'd like to say something about the girlfriends, but I've been one too many times. I remember long ago seeing some little rock singer's nails all painted & thinking, "some girl probably painted those last night in the last city when the band stayed at her house & he probably has some wonderful girlfriend at home he doesn't deserve."
Bless the girlfriends. I have issues.
I actually married a punk rocker so I say the most annoying thing is not picking up his own underpants!!! I'm also a punk rocker from way back so maybe he has a bone to pick with me too....
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